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trids

Be my guest

For those who don't like tricks, cheats, or exploits - here's an easy win... Or is it?

Be my guest
trids, Nov 22, 2016
    • trids
      This is actually a demo of a cool design-time exploit recently discovered by @explorer.

      Apologies to those who were hoping for an easy win!
      :p
    • Frenzies
      Is it solvable?
    • trids
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    • Frenzies
      @trids I'm confused. So it's not solvable? o_O And is that an emoji as the author? :D I also don't get its relation with @explorer's thread.
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    • trids
      @Frenzies
      @explorer's thread is about placing reduced models at the boundaries of Max World Size, in order to prohibit B from climbing steps that ought to be accessible.

      "An emoji is worth a thousand words," they say. Some of which in this case include: a dare; chutzpah; solve this if you can; not so easy is it?... Etc.

      As for being solvable - it would appear to be, just by looking at it, right? But what happens when you try? Can you in fact solve it? Have you tried?
    • trids
      For the record, this effect has already appeared in some puzzles by @Astral_Mage, @sawdust, (anyone else please let me know, and I'll add you along with the links to those puzzles).
      :)
    • Mystery Man
      Mind blown
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    • Frenzies
      Can you move this (delete and repost) to @explorer's thread, please? It's best to keep unsolvable levels from this section.
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    • nGord
      [​IMG]
      I still think, however, that this level card should reside simply in the thread from which it was linked. It is not fun at all.
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    • trids
      @nGord - Wow! well done! As I mentioned in my original post, this was meant as a demo (not a challenge). I've modified the original post to make this more clear, by exposing the spoiler.

      But by seeking the challenge in it, you've enhanced the educational value of the demo - assuming you'll also provide the solution ;). I can't wait to see how you accomplished it! It would be a relief to know that this particular design-time exploit can itself be defeated, and how to do it.

      In a way, this is an extreme example of the benefits of finding alternative solutions: You've found one solution where there was expected to be zero! Thank you for adding value :)!
    • nGord
      @trids - I thought the original post (first comment) was modified! I just couldn't remember for sure.

      I'm not happy with the solution, but here it is:
      You can get B up onto one of the stair blocks using the Boogie Bot Bug (i.e. using B's inertia while dancing him around the stair block).

      I'm not sure this solution actually "enhances the educational value." Solutions based on what I did are evil and should be discouraged from both design and play and never acceptable as a valid solution. The educational value here is to first understand that stair blocks are not supposed to be able to be ascended or descended at the edge of the game space and then that the boundaries of the game space can be manipulated (as per your linked thread). Both the first part and the second part were probably not intentional by @Martin Magni, but then again neither were a lot of things, including my solution.

      I can appreciate your point of view regarding alternative solutions. I am personally not in that camp. My ideal level has but one solution that is hard to figure out. So in that vein, I do like a good challenge. :)
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    • trids
      Aah yes, that's one exploit I've only once ever succeed in using! I share your reluctance to use it as a well-deprecated option. In this case the stairs should be flanked with obstacles in order to avoid its use as a solution.

      But still, it would be nice to know that there is in fact a way to overcome this design-time exploit.
    • Tatinbi1209
      I cant scan it coud somebody help me ?
      ;)
    • nGord
      @Tatinbi1209 - zoom in on the QR code before taking a picture of it. Failing that you can use @Gepeto's MekoStudio Customizer to generate a larger version of the code.
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