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aliwardana

Enemy Help

B stranded on a small island with his enemy. they must help each other to escape from this island.

Enemy Help
aliwardana, Jun 29, 2018
You, chemi, ADM and 1 other person like this.
    • gmacpro
      So walking over a zapper isn't a trick?
    • gmacpro
      So elevated zapper isn't a trick either? I'll rate after you reply....
    • Rating:
      5/5,
      delator77
      Very nice logic compact level...Really enjoyable...Btw...For me it's a very good level of logic ... And I agree with @aliwardana in the sense that tricks are not necessary ... I mean, I think I understand perfectly @gmacpro but we have a different concept of trick ( both respectable) ... for me the trick refers to "different" things that B can do like autopilot, hercules, springboard stairs, etc. but I do not include in tricks the "different" behaviors of R ... A simple matter of focus:)...Thanks for sharing and very well done @aliwardana ;)
    • gmacpro
      @delator77 - I totally disagree with your focus on tricks. An elevated zapper to change the direction of B or allow B to pass isn't logic but an exploit of the game. A new player reading 'Simple Logic Level' will never think I need to get B to this point and raise zapperR up so that B can pass. Never - they might stumble across it like most tricks are found but not likely.
    • delator77
      @gmacpro Hey my friend, as I said, it's just a matter of focus ... Nothing happens!:rolleyes:
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    • Rating:
      5/5,
      Block builder
      Tricks or not (classical discussion that only is about definitions) this is a great level with good reuse of Z.
    • aliwardana
      @gmacpro I agree with @delator77 , I think using Z is not a trick, its a mechanism.New players will find this mechanism if they try a lot or just ask in the comments. sorry if this becomes a debate, i will chage the caption. hope you happy and enjoy with this level
    • Rating:
      5/5,
      chemi
      Great logic compact level!
      In my opinion it uses tricks... :rolleyes:
      Thanks for sharing! :thumbsup:
    • cpw
      I'll have to agree with @gmacpro here that it is indeed a trick. It is true that R tricks are mostly automatic but just because they are automatic (or the so-called behaviors) doesn't mean they are not tricks. Limiting the definition of tricks to only include B behavior is largely a common bias and misconception of the players as B is always the directly controllable bot from a player's perspective. A creator (and a discoverer / explorer in particular) would however always see these behavior as tricks, and just because they are intuitive and adopted by most players over time, it does not mean they are "not tricks" at all.

      Once again I'm tired of people who claim there are "no tricks" when there are in fact plenty of tricks that get overlooked simply because they have become common over time.
    • gmacpro
      @aliwardana
      Come on... Really? I'll bet that every exploit (trick) or the word, mechanism that you use, was found purely by accident. I've seen magical steps happen while creating levels too and I'll say what was that? If you retry and the same thing happens then maybe you've found another exploit but I'm pretty sure creators don't decide today, I'm going to find an exploit....

      I see you've changed your description so I'll rate...
    • Rating:
      5/5,
      gmacpro
      Great concise level with a nice mixture of moves. Thanks for sharing
    • Rating:
      5/5,
      ridgerunner
      Great combination of moves ina small level. Ball drop was clever.
    • Rating:
      5/5,
      meko
      Good compact level with some logic moves. Great use of R's head:thumbsup:
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